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This problem with illegal immigration laws in Arizona are a mess.
“Legal” and “illegal” are definitive terms in this situation, in that “are you here legally or illegally”, however law enforcement should not have the right to stop you just to check your citizenship status as being a citizen is not illegal. Not being a legal citizen is, yet they should not be able to question you on your status unless they have done something in the way of suspicious activity leading to their requiring you to present your ID. It “is” illegal not to possess legal identification in almost all states, and that is constitutional. Making a verbal query as to your citizenship status is no different than requiring you to possess and present a valid driver’s license and active automobile insurance. So too, it is legal for a law enforcement officer to ask you if your listed address on your driver’s license is your “current” residence. IN that alone, the question is answered as to whether or not they have the right to ask you about your citizenship status. If it is a problem, then they should be required to ask each and every person they stop if they are a legal citizen, just as they are required to read you your Miranda Rights when arrested and that would cure the profiling law and people subjected to the questioning by race or ethnic origins.
The Arizona law is trying to exercise their right to “illegally profile” anyone they choose to stop on the street. So the question is simple and so is the answer…it’s illegal.
Law enforcement should have the right to ask someone they have stopped if they’re “ a citizen of the United States” yet it doesn’t underwrite their requirement to have legal cause to stop you. Legal cause to stop you would eliminate “profiling”. Given that, if they ask someone if they are a legal citizen of the US, and the person responds “yes” they should then have the right to ask if they are a natural citizen (born in the US) or “naturalized” (immigrated). This would then give them the opportunity if the person responds “naturalized” to simply ask “when?”
This gives them the ground to check that person’s naturalization records and if they don’t match the response and information given, then the person is then a suspect, for giving false information to an officer of the law, and that’s illegal, for you or any others to do, and resolves the “profiling” clause.
You see, illegal activity is universal, whether an illegal immigrant or if you are a natural citizen, it’s illegal and the justice system should treat an illegal immigrant the same as they would a legal citizen, and enforce laws when illegal actions are commited.
However, the question here is deeper within the problem than what we should be asking., If the justice system and illegal activity is universal (punishment for illegal activity) then the crowds should be on the steps of the corporative industrial and common business structure with the country who parasitically drain the system by blindly (they claim “unknowingly) employing the illegal’s daily as if they are doing nothing wrong and profit off the system’s lack of enforcement on laws already in place. So there we have it.
The question is not whether Arizona is right for trying to enforce stricter laws on immigration, its “why isn’t the government enforcing laws already in place”. Arizona is merely implementing tougher and stronger laws to account for and counter the lack of enforcement on the government’s part, and also implementing laws that restrict other law enforcement sources from interfering with the process.
No wonder government doesn’t like it, they’re being told that they are doing their job in the first place, and then being told to stay out of the fracas while Arizona Law Enforcement tries to control the problem within their own borders. I can’t see much wrong with that, yet Arizona cannot blatantly ignore constitutional rights of freedom even for immigrants, illegal or not. This kind of judicial process is opening the door for state government to write their own laws, and could easily lead to them taking it to the extreme by dividing people by status, legal citizens being classified as natural born or immigrated naturalized.
Someone claimed that we are ALL immigrant and this is just as blindly false as the law they wish to repeal, in that no we are not all immigrants. My great, great, great grandfather was an immigrant just as his wife and my maternal grandparents were back then. Yet that doesn’t make us all immigrants as we were natural born in the US. It merely gives us an immigration history to our family lines and it is as simple as that. This is true for ANY country where people live whose ancestry was derived from legal immigrants. That’s the point though; my grandparents back then were required to go through Paris Island’s immigration process to be legal, and the same problem applied to the situation back then as it does now.
The factories employed illegal immigrants at poor, unethical low wages in slavery type atmospheres and environments. As we can see today the same process recurs yet not as much or in those extreme scenarios. Big business companies in America employ the same tactics to profit off of illegal activity, and that’s illegal. What’s declared illegal for us, and is not quickly enforced by law? So too, what is illegal for us, should be illegal for business along with being illegal for illegal immigrants.
This isn’t having someone mow your lawn or do your grounds keeping, this is big business profiting off of illegal activity and that crime of not enforcing laws on this alone is stronger and far more critical to the system failure than the people who illegally enter the country looking for a better life. When was it you heard of a large company have to close down their factory’s doors because of multiple counts of hiring illegals and failure to check their identification for fraud? Never, we never hear of government enforcement to that extreme on big industry. We only hear of smaller business being shut down and fined in the larger cities such as New York or Chicago, never the large corporative facilities that merely pay a large fine which ends up much more cost effective when weighed against the profits of employing illegals.
We should never take a stand against illegal immigrants singularly as the source of the problem, but we SHOULD take a stand against people performing illegal activity, which includes not only the illegal immigrant but also the corporative and industrial sin.
The same controls and laws which we ourselves as Americans must abide by and obey, should be law to one and all, and with that simple statement, the case is closed.